tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4316904890367789805.post6504268033905634750..comments2023-11-05T07:18:30.231+00:00Comments on Hug A Hoodie: Matthew Taylor's appointment - Ming should put his foot down!Jonny Wrighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07414994559548890103noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4316904890367789805.post-15573728157054532212007-09-05T09:12:00.000+01:002007-09-05T09:12:00.000+01:00The debate on here has been interesting. You can ...The debate on here has been interesting. You can make coherent arguments both for an against.<BR/><BR/>The main argument in favour is that it gives the Lib Dems an opportunity to make a difference. The key question is just how much of a difference. If Brown is only allowing Lib Dems (and others) to tinker at the edges in policy areas where there is already strong consensus between the parties then just how much difference can non-Labour appointees make?<BR/><BR/>It comes down to whether this move is genuine, and opens up scope for a real departure from the policies Labour would otherwise have pursued, or is it just a PR exercise. Just proof that Brown is no less reliant on spin than Blair was.<BR/><BR/>I guess only time will tell for sure, but I am deeply suspicious of Brown and am inclined to side with Jonny Wright.<BR/><BR/>It is difficult to see what's in it for the Lib Dems. Certainly not real power in any truly important area. There is also the risk of losing votes as would-be Lib Dems voters might reason they no longer need to waste a vote on the Lib Dems if they can now get the benefits of Lib Dem influence via the back door.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4316904890367789805.post-54850347452860550522007-09-03T17:07:00.000+01:002007-09-03T17:07:00.000+01:00I think members of our party are right to say no t...I think members of our party are right to say no to the collective responsability and tied hands of joining the cabinet, but advising and taking part in reviews is a positive step.<BR/><BR/>I'd really like to see a stronger westminster and stronger committees - I see Mr Taylors role as extending what can be with parliamentary committees.<BR/><BR/>Mr Taylor is working primarily for his constituents - I think that is a point many are missing here, he's certainly not "working for labour".<BR/><BR/>I'd like to see stronger teamwork and less "we can't help you, you're the enemy" party politics - particularly with the Tories in opposing ID Cards, and detention without trial.<BR/><BR/>Just because the other parties above such tactics doesn't mean we have should allow good to be left undone for fear of a little mud being slung in our direction.<BR/><BR/>I don't care about party political spin on this, what matters is what can be acheived, and if Mr Taylor acheives something worthwhile then it's a credit to him, rather than the party political bickering I see here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4316904890367789805.post-2389855892282716712007-09-03T15:31:00.000+01:002007-09-03T15:31:00.000+01:00Spot on.Brown is not interested in what we have to...Spot on.<BR/><BR/>Brown is not interested in what we have to say. He's an authoritarian, he wants strong government not consensual government.<BR/><BR/>The best thing he could do would be to strengthen parliament and its committees. Allow real debate and dissension amongst MPs.<BR/><BR/>Of course, he's opposed to this so is making a big show of being 'inclusive' by having some MPs from other parties advising him which also means the other parties will be easier to taint (and he can use that old 'LibDems are just like us really' ploy to encourage people to vote Labour not LibDem)Tristanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15395992764678278326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4316904890367789805.post-72741037661940327742007-09-03T15:13:00.000+01:002007-09-03T15:13:00.000+01:00Aaron - "The most effective opposition ... is one ...Aaron - <BR/><BR/>"The most effective opposition ... is one that works with the government on the good and opposes the government on the bad."<BR/><BR/>I agree entirely, but my idea of working with the Government extends as far as trying to reach a consensus where we can, supporting them in parliament when they do the right thing, and not just voting against them for the sake of it.<BR/><BR/>It really shouldn't extend as far as working for them, though!Jonny Wrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07414994559548890103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4316904890367789805.post-61329801424110966422007-09-03T15:01:00.000+01:002007-09-03T15:01:00.000+01:00God forbid an elected MP should work on something ...God forbid an elected MP should work on something important to his constituents.<BR/><BR/>How can we show the voting public they can trust us to deliver if they only ever see us throwing peanuts from the sidelines.<BR/><BR/>The most effective opposition (in terms of the people it serves, certainly not for the party itself) is one that works with the government on the good and opposes the government on the bad.<BR/><BR/>People do vote for the liberal democrats - we (myself included) voted for the Honourable Mr Taylor, precisely because he is a good MP backed by a party with good policies.<BR/><BR/>I'd sooner have we had less MPs if they were all as good as Mr Taylor, than twice as many if they were the usual party-first yes-men the labour party is made up of, and they would probably make more difference.<BR/><BR/>It's not all down to bums on seats!<BR/><BR/>Quality before quantity - that's why our lazy and lacklustre lib dem councillors were culled.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4316904890367789805.post-89175148729660590022007-09-03T14:00:00.000+01:002007-09-03T14:00:00.000+01:00Spot on, once again old bean. The parliamentary pa...Spot on, once again old bean. The parliamentary party's job is to expose Government failures and propose new solutions, especially in areas where the Tories and Labour have a nice cosy consensus, eg. the BAE corruption scandal.<BR/><BR/>If the people want our ideas & policies, they should vote for us. On what basis can we oppose a government at General Elections which we have advised?<BR/><BR/>Our job is not to give a lifeline to an ailing government which has run out of steam. It is to provide a viable alternative. We risk looking like we are in cahoots with Brown when we co-operate in ways such as this, which can only serve to alienate more people from British politics as they conclude that they have no choice at the ballot box, because the end result will always be the same.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com